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		<title>By: Factory Farming News: Vet Leaders Side with Egg Industry to Oppose Battery Cage Ban &#8211; Eat Drink Better</title>
		<link>http://eatdrinkbetter.com/2010/02/11/eating-vegan-where-do-you-get-your-protein/comment-page-2/#comment-105768</link>
		<dc:creator>Factory Farming News: Vet Leaders Side with Egg Industry to Oppose Battery Cage Ban &#8211; Eat Drink Better</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 10:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] or saturated fat content is also ignored. But worst of all the suggestion that we might eat these plant proteins in place of eggs to reduce animal suffering is not mentioned by those that we expect to be the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Reader Question: Raw Vegan Bodybuilding &#8211; Eat Drink Better</title>
		<link>http://eatdrinkbetter.com/2010/02/11/eating-vegan-where-do-you-get-your-protein/comment-page-2/#comment-100036</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader Question: Raw Vegan Bodybuilding &#8211; Eat Drink Better</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] embracing veganism! It&#8217;s a common misconception that vegans can&#8217;t be athletic or get enough protein. Now that folks like Mike Tyson and the Old Spice guy embracing veganism, that perception is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] embracing veganism! It&#8217;s a common misconception that vegans can&#8217;t be athletic or get enough protein. Now that folks like Mike Tyson and the Old Spice guy embracing veganism, that perception is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Becky Striepe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky Striepe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a common misconception that you need all of those amino acids in the same meal.  As long as you&#039;re getting complete protein throughout the day, you&#039;re going to be fine. 

If you&#039;re concerned, though, protein combining is easy. Three good combinations are: beans with whole grains, nuts and beans, grains and nuts. If you have oatmeal with walnuts at breakfast, beans and brown rice at lunch, and veggies with beans and pesto at dinner, you&#039;re getting a complete protein at each meal.

We actually have an Eating Vegan article on B12, since this is one of the trickier nutrients.  There are so many B12 fortified foods out there that with a bit of planning, it&#039;s not as hard to get what you need.  Can you share a source about plant based B12 and absorbency? I haven&#039;t seen anything about that and am definitely interested!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a common misconception that you need all of those amino acids in the same meal.  As long as you&#8217;re getting complete protein throughout the day, you&#8217;re going to be fine. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re concerned, though, protein combining is easy. Three good combinations are: beans with whole grains, nuts and beans, grains and nuts. If you have oatmeal with walnuts at breakfast, beans and brown rice at lunch, and veggies with beans and pesto at dinner, you&#8217;re getting a complete protein at each meal.</p>
<p>We actually have an Eating Vegan article on B12, since this is one of the trickier nutrients.  There are so many B12 fortified foods out there that with a bit of planning, it&#8217;s not as hard to get what you need.  Can you share a source about plant based B12 and absorbency? I haven&#8217;t seen anything about that and am definitely interested!</p>
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		<title>By: Lois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To make protein the cells need all the availabe amino acids together at the same time. There are 9 digestable essential amino acids, which also contain nitrogen, an important element of protein, that we get from animal or animal by products, because our body CAN NOT produce them. Living plants don&#039;t contain nitrogen. Our bodies need to have at least these 9 essential amino acids to create protein. The other 13 amino acids our body can make. Then our body turns them into proteins. When you don&#039;t eat these 9 essential amino acids the body can&#039;t make the other 13. This creates poor protein and can&#039;t utilize them as well, creating a poor diet when only eating plant based diet. There will also be a lack of another important vitamin: B-12, which is attached to animal based amino acid chains. Plant based vitamin B-12, causes deficiency, because it can not be digested by the body. All of these elements need to be in their natural state the way they are in whole food for our bodies to benefit from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To make protein the cells need all the availabe amino acids together at the same time. There are 9 digestable essential amino acids, which also contain nitrogen, an important element of protein, that we get from animal or animal by products, because our body CAN NOT produce them. Living plants don&#8217;t contain nitrogen. Our bodies need to have at least these 9 essential amino acids to create protein. The other 13 amino acids our body can make. Then our body turns them into proteins. When you don&#8217;t eat these 9 essential amino acids the body can&#8217;t make the other 13. This creates poor protein and can&#8217;t utilize them as well, creating a poor diet when only eating plant based diet. There will also be a lack of another important vitamin: B-12, which is attached to animal based amino acid chains. Plant based vitamin B-12, causes deficiency, because it can not be digested by the body. All of these elements need to be in their natural state the way they are in whole food for our bodies to benefit from them.</p>
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		<title>By: Tempeh Ten Ways &#8211; Eat Drink Better</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tempeh Ten Ways &#8211; Eat Drink Better</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] health benefits, though, and lately I&#8217;ve been running across excellent recipes featuring this vegan protein [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Eat Better on a Budget &#8211; Eat Drink Better</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eat Better on a Budget &#8211; Eat Drink Better</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Not only are beans and whole grains inexpensive, they&#8217;re excellent meat free sources of protein! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Eating Vegan: The Soy Dilemma, Part One : Eat. Drink. Better.</title>
		<link>http://eatdrinkbetter.com/2010/02/11/eating-vegan-where-do-you-get-your-protein/comment-page-2/#comment-87400</link>
		<dc:creator>Eating Vegan: The Soy Dilemma, Part One : Eat. Drink. Better.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] block of tofu and box of soy milk might seem like the answer to the protein question when it comes to vegan nutrition, but before you fix that soy latte it&#8217;s important to know a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kenda Swartz Pepper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenda Swartz Pepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let this guy clear it up for you - Dr. McDougall - a physician who has devoted his life to nutrition.  
http://drmcdougall.com/misc/2007nl/apr/dairy.htm 

Soooo many misconceptions about protein. He talks about the misleading notion of ‘complete proteins’ as well.  As a vegan and former competitive athlete, I never had any issues with protein or my energy level.  As a former animal-eater, I used to make statements such as &#039;I need protein from fish to feel better&#039;. I totally understand those sentiments.  And yet, eating enough calories (just as someone mentioned) is the trick.  Oh and eating calories that are whole-food based and unprocessed – equally as important.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let this guy clear it up for you &#8211; Dr. McDougall &#8211; a physician who has devoted his life to nutrition.<br />
<a href="http://drmcdougall.com/misc/2007nl/apr/dairy.htm" rel="nofollow">http://drmcdougall.com/misc/2007nl/apr/dairy.htm</a> </p>
<p>Soooo many misconceptions about protein. He talks about the misleading notion of ‘complete proteins’ as well.  As a vegan and former competitive athlete, I never had any issues with protein or my energy level.  As a former animal-eater, I used to make statements such as &#8216;I need protein from fish to feel better&#8217;. I totally understand those sentiments.  And yet, eating enough calories (just as someone mentioned) is the trick.  Oh and eating calories that are whole-food based and unprocessed – equally as important.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Teleia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teleia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was vegetarian with vegan tendencies for 5 years and here&#039;s what I found.  Oh, and I actually have a background in science (Masters).

You don&#039;t need to eat meat as long as you eat a really varied diet.  Proteins come in different types, just like fats.  Proteins, whether soy, chicken, beef, nuts, whatever all have differing amounts of different amino acids.  Since we need all the amino acids, we need to consume them all since our bodies don&#039;t make them.  

That said, the Duke studies showing animal protein is bad...  go back and actually read the studies.  They&#039;re not about animal protein, per se.  They&#039;re about animal fat.  Fat in high concentrations is bad for you, no matter where it comes from.  Generalizing from &quot;excess animal fat&quot; to all animal proteins is erroneous.  

In fact, one reason animal protein has likely been a major source of nutrition for so long is that it is what&#039;s considered a &quot;complete protein,&quot; meaning that all meats contain all amino acids.  No non-meats contain all animo acids.  Again, this is not to say that you should eat animal protein, since you can get all those amino acids from other foods.  I just want to set the record straight because I think erroneous claims actually hurt the cause.  There are plenty of other reasons to avoid meat (poor treatment of animals, environmental degradation, world hunger, etc.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was vegetarian with vegan tendencies for 5 years and here&#8217;s what I found.  Oh, and I actually have a background in science (Masters).</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need to eat meat as long as you eat a really varied diet.  Proteins come in different types, just like fats.  Proteins, whether soy, chicken, beef, nuts, whatever all have differing amounts of different amino acids.  Since we need all the amino acids, we need to consume them all since our bodies don&#8217;t make them.  </p>
<p>That said, the Duke studies showing animal protein is bad&#8230;  go back and actually read the studies.  They&#8217;re not about animal protein, per se.  They&#8217;re about animal fat.  Fat in high concentrations is bad for you, no matter where it comes from.  Generalizing from &#8220;excess animal fat&#8221; to all animal proteins is erroneous.  </p>
<p>In fact, one reason animal protein has likely been a major source of nutrition for so long is that it is what&#8217;s considered a &#8220;complete protein,&#8221; meaning that all meats contain all amino acids.  No non-meats contain all animo acids.  Again, this is not to say that you should eat animal protein, since you can get all those amino acids from other foods.  I just want to set the record straight because I think erroneous claims actually hurt the cause.  There are plenty of other reasons to avoid meat (poor treatment of animals, environmental degradation, world hunger, etc.).</p>
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		<title>By: YCC</title>
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		<dc:creator>YCC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The protein sources are really good, thanks for the list.

Although since I&#039;ve begun eating vegan and mostly raw, I just can&#039;t eat. Even when I&#039;m hungry just seeing food makes me full. I only feel like eating high calorie fruits, because like Denise said, my body doesn&#039;t feel &#039;energized&#039; by the protein.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The protein sources are really good, thanks for the list.</p>
<p>Although since I&#8217;ve begun eating vegan and mostly raw, I just can&#8217;t eat. Even when I&#8217;m hungry just seeing food makes me full. I only feel like eating high calorie fruits, because like Denise said, my body doesn&#8217;t feel &#8216;energized&#8217; by the protein.</p>
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